Anyone remember a murder in mpls - xmas, mid 90s, girl found stuffed in trunk at Target?

[Brian Link]

I used to work with a fellow named Paul Barbour at Norwest. While I
was there, his sister was murdered just before Christmas, and was
found in the trunk of her car in the Target parking lot off of Lake
street.

There were no witnesses and no suspects. His sister's name was Ann.

He used to have a page with updates on the investigation, and I can't
seem to locate it.

I had an acquaintance suffer a similar loss, and was reminded of the
story. As far as I know it's still unsolved.

Thanks if anyone recognizes this incident and can fill me in.

BLink
--------------------------
"The worst thing about censorship is [redacted]"

[Tony Calguire]

Post by Brian Link
I used to work with a fellow named Paul Barbour at Norwest. While I
was there, his sister was murdered just before Christmas, and was
found in the trunk of her car in the Target parking lot off of Lake
street.
There were no witnesses and no suspects. His sister's name was Ann.
He used to have a page with updates on the investigation, and I can't
seem to locate it.
I had an acquaintance suffer a similar loss, and was reminded of the
story. As far as I know it's still unsolved.
Thanks if anyone recognizes this incident and can fill me in.

He used to have that page on the Twin Cities Free-net... it's now a
redirect to http://www.paulbarber.net.

Most people in this newsgroup will remember that as the Anne Dunlap
case. The local TV stations revisit the case every few years, but they
don't really have anything new to report. I suspect that in the minds
of a lot of people, that case was solved shortly after it happened.

[Cyli]

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 02:48:44 -0500, Tony Calguire

Post by Tony Calguire

Post by Brian Link
I used to work with a fellow named Paul Barbour at Norwest. While I
was there, his sister was murdered just before Christmas, and was
found in the trunk of her car in the Target parking lot off of Lake
street.
There were no witnesses and no suspects. His sister's name was Ann.
He used to have a page with updates on the investigation, and I can't
seem to locate it.
I had an acquaintance suffer a similar loss, and was reminded of the
story. As far as I know it's still unsolved.
Thanks if anyone recognizes this incident and can fill me in.

He used to have that page on the Twin Cities Free-net... it's now a
redirect to http://www.paulbarber.net.
Most people in this newsgroup will remember that as the Anne Dunlap
case. The local TV stations revisit the case every few years, but they
don't really have anything new to report. I suspect that in the minds
of a lot of people, that case was solved shortly after it happened.

Oh, yes. Though I did waver from the husband doing it to one of the
parents doing it and the husband covering for them after the blood in
the garage opened it up for all three of them to be suspects.

[adh]

Post by Tony Calguire

Post by Brian Link
I used to work with a fellow named Paul Barbour at Norwest. While I
was there, his sister was murdered just before Christmas, and was
found in the trunk of her car in the Target parking lot off of Lake
street.
There were no witnesses and no suspects. His sister's name was Ann.
He used to have a page with updates on the investigation, and I can't
seem to locate it.
I had an acquaintance suffer a similar loss, and was reminded of the
story. As far as I know it's still unsolved.
Thanks if anyone recognizes this incident and can fill me in.

He used to have that page on the Twin Cities Free-net... it's now a
redirect to http://www.paulbarber.net.
Most people in this newsgroup will remember that as the Anne Dunlap
case. The local TV stations revisit the case every few years, but they
don't really have anything new to report. I suspect that in the minds
of a lot of people, that case was solved shortly after it happened.

That was 11 years ago? Wow, how time had flown. I recall the parents
lived over by Lake Calhoun and the cops found traces of her blood in
the garage, and the victims husband was a good suspect, but the police
were never able to put the case together well enough to charge him, and
he acted very owly. It was speculated that he killed her in the
garage, and drove her over to the target, and then jogged home. Also
wasn't there a protracted legal struggle over the very large life
insurance policies they had, and an enormous house that was under
construction? It's vague.

[Howard Beale]

Post by Brian Link
I used to work with a fellow named Paul Barbour at Norwest. While I
was there, his sister was murdered just before Christmas, and was
found in the trunk of her car in the Target parking lot off of Lake
street.
There were no witnesses and no suspects. His sister's name was Ann.
He used to have a page with updates on the investigation, and I can't
seem to locate it.
I had an acquaintance suffer a similar loss, and was reminded of the
story. As far as I know it's still unsolved.

Anne Barber-Dunlap, General Mills marketing exec and former Campbell Mithun
ad exec. Body found stuffed in the trunk of her unlocked car with keys in
the ignition in the Lake Street Kmart (not Target). Last seen shopping at
Mall of America.

Husband Brad led high-profile "Ann is missing" campaign, only to become
focus of police investigation. Media revealed that they had been going
through marriage counseling as well as Ann having large life insurance
policies Brad had taken out on her. Police could never quite connect a
chain of evidence to charge him, and no other suspects surfaced. He
retained the vocal support of Ann's parents the entire time.

My parents frequented a restaurant owned by friends and popular with the
Minneapolis Police at the time. One of the persistent rumors they heard
from the police (none of which were actually on the case, though) was that
Brad was actually gay, and that his lover/accomplice left for a year-long
stint teaching in rural China right after the crime to help keep him
"clean".

I think Brad ended up moving to the Phoenix area.

I don't think it was ever plausible that it was a random crime; I can't
recall any violent attacks at the MOA parking lot, and leaving the body in
the trunk of the car at Lake & Nicollet with the keys in the ignition is a
Murder Mystery 1001 attempt at framing some lowlife for the job.

IMHO the person holding the keys to the whole mystery is the marriage
counselor; their understanding of the conflict between them would be very
informative, both factually (intimacy problems indicitive of homosexuality?)
and from a sense of the intensity of the conflict.

[S. Smith]

On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:52:57 -0500, "Howard Beale"

Post by Howard Beale

Post by Brian Link
I used to work with a fellow named Paul Barbour at Norwest. While I
was there, his sister was murdered just before Christmas, and was
found in the trunk of her car in the Target parking lot off of Lake
street.
There were no witnesses and no suspects. His sister's name was Ann.
He used to have a page with updates on the investigation, and I can't
seem to locate it.
I had an acquaintance suffer a similar loss, and was reminded of the
story. As far as I know it's still unsolved.

Anne Barber-Dunlap, General Mills marketing exec and former Campbell Mithun
ad exec. Body found stuffed in the trunk of her unlocked car with keys in
the ignition in the Lake Street Kmart (not Target). Last seen shopping at
Mall of America.
Husband Brad led high-profile "Ann is missing" campaign, only to become
focus of police investigation. Media revealed that they had been going
through marriage counseling as well as Ann having large life insurance
policies Brad had taken out on her. Police could never quite connect a
chain of evidence to charge him, and no other suspects surfaced. He
retained the vocal support of Ann's parents the entire time.
My parents frequented a restaurant owned by friends and popular with the
Minneapolis Police at the time. One of the persistent rumors they heard
from the police (none of which were actually on the case, though) was that
Brad was actually gay, and that his lover/accomplice left for a year-long
stint teaching in rural China right after the crime to help keep him
"clean".
I think Brad ended up moving to the Phoenix area.
I don't think it was ever plausible that it was a random crime; I can't
recall any violent attacks at the MOA parking lot, and leaving the body in
the trunk of the car at Lake & Nicollet with the keys in the ignition is a
Murder Mystery 1001 attempt at framing some lowlife for the job.

It's really bizarre that they were never able to get enough evidence
to solve this crime.

I always had the feeling that the husband was involved, and not
telling the whole story, too. You rumor about the gay angle just adds
another strange twist to this one.

Too bad they never caught her killer. Hopefully some day someone
will come forward with more information to help solve this one.




- Scott Smith: ***@sludgereport.org
Books Blog: http://scottsbooks.blogspot.com
Blue States Rising: http://www.bluestaterising.blogspot.com

[Howard Beale]

Post by S. Smith
It's really bizarre that they were never able to get enough evidence
to solve this crime.

If her husband was involved, he's a smart guy and it's not entirely
unrealistic that a smart guy could plan a murder that would be hard to pin
on him.

Post by S. Smith
I always had the feeling that the husband was involved, and not
telling the whole story, too. You rumor about the gay angle just adds
another strange twist to this one.

Nothing else added up, and it was pretty apparent that the killer at minimum
wanted the car to get stolen so it would get discovered far away and make
the investigation harder. I can only assume that it might have been a nice
frame-up for the car thief, too.

Another possibility is that the car would have been stolen by a pro who,
upon discovering the body, might have done the killer a favor and made the
car AND the body disappear to prevent themselves from being targeted in the
investigation.

Either way, I think that the car turned up where it did wasn't part of the
plan.

Post by S. Smith
Too bad they never caught her killer. Hopefully some day someone
will come forward with more information to help solve this one.

IMHO the best tactic would have been a long, expensive deep-cover
investgiation of the husband in his new location, involving multiple
undercover operatives who would try to get close enough to him to obtain
information unavailable through normal police procedure. Black bag jobs,
etc.

And at best it might reveal that the husband really was on the level, and
that the killer was one of those super-creepy serial killer types that
drifts from town to town killing one or two total strangers and then moves
on.

[Northern Minnesota]

Post by Howard Beale
IMHO the best tactic would have been a long, expensive deep-cover
investgiation of the husband in his new location, involving multiple
undercover operatives who would try to get close enough to him to obtain
information unavailable through normal police procedure. Black bag jobs,
etc.
And at best it might reveal that the husband really was on the level, and
that the killer was one of those super-creepy serial killer types that
drifts from town to town killing one or two total strangers and then moves
on.

you are kidding right? or maybe just read too many Sandford's books...

[Howard Beale]

Post by Northern Minnesota

Post by Howard Beale
IMHO the best tactic would have been a long, expensive deep-cover
investgiation of the husband in his new location, involving multiple
undercover operatives who would try to get close enough to him to obtain
information unavailable through normal police procedure. Black bag jobs,
etc.
And at best it might reveal that the husband really was on the level, and
that the killer was one of those super-creepy serial killer types that
drifts from town to town killing one or two total strangers and then moves
on.

you are kidding right? or maybe just read too many Sandford's books...

The husband doing it makes the most sense, situationally and statistically,
and you'll never get anywhere unless you can verify whether he did or
didn't. Gclose to him would at a minimum determine whether the gay
hypothesis held water, and if it did, would certainly warrant seeking
further information.

And why is a serial killer out of the question? The pantheon of serial
killers certainly includes drifters with an M.O. of killing random women.

The notion that some loser grabbed her from MoA and slit her throat for
nothing more than a ride to Lake & Nicollet is preposterous; that's just not
a "Minnesota" crime.

[adh]

Post by Howard Beale
The notion that some loser grabbed her from MoA and slit her throat for
nothing more than a ride to Lake & Nicollet is preposterous; that's just not
a "Minnesota" crime.

Motive, opportunity, and like Howard said, statistically, the spouse
being involved is overwhelming.

[P T]

...after the blood in the garage
opened it up for all three of them
to be suspects.

I remember the crime but not the details. Did they really find blood in
the garage? You would think that would nail the case.

[Cyli]

Post by P T

...after the blood in the garage
opened it up for all three of them
to be suspects.

I remember the crime but not the details. Did they really find blood in
the garage? You would think that would nail the case.

Yes, they did. However, the parents also had access to the garage, so
that brought 3 possible perpetrators into it, plus any servants they
might have or intruders. As well as the possibility that she had
previously injured herself and not cleaned up all the blood. I
believe (this I'm very uncertain in memory on) that her father claimed
she'd hurt herself out there some time before or that he had (DNA
wasn't big then and I don't know if samples would still be around or
if there'd have been enough to sample. Also, IIRC, it was some time
after her body was found that the blood was discovered. I think the
police waited for the parents to voluntarily let them search the
garage, rather than the police getting an immediate search warrant.

One of my favorite memories of the TV coverage (I watched a lot more
back then) was of one of her female friends going all emotional and
talking about how awful it must be for the husband, "He just loved her
to death." without a clue how that was going to resonate if he'd been
the killer.

[AnnE]

Post by Brian Link
I used to work with a fellow named Paul Barbour at Norwest. While I
was there, his sister was murdered just before Christmas, and was
found in the trunk of her car in the Target parking lot off of Lake
street.
There were no witnesses and no suspects. His sister's name was Ann.
He used to have a page with updates on the investigation, and I can't
seem to locate it.
I had an acquaintance suffer a similar loss, and was reminded of the
story. As far as I know it's still unsolved.
Thanks if anyone recognizes this incident and can fill me in.
BLink
--------------------------
"The worst thing about censorship is [redacted]"

Feb 7, 2005 9:00 pm US/Central [I just '"googled" Brad Dunlap and up
came this article]
The Murder Of Anne Dunlap
VIDEO: Caroline Lowe reports.
Read Caroline's Thoughts On The Dunlap Case.
(WCCO) Minneapolis The murder of Anne Barber Dunlap is one of
Minnesota's most infamous unsolved crimes.

The homicide unit of the Minneapolis police department is going back and
looking at all of its cold cases since the 1950s, as new technology and
fresh information can bring breakthroughs. The unit has more than 800
unsolved cases, and many are unforgettable.

One involves 31-year-old Anne Barber Dunlap, who was found murdered in
1996.

"These cases strike to us personally, on a human level, we never forget
these people," said Lt. Lee Edwards, who runs the homicide department
for the Minneapolis police.

Dunlap was a successful Pillsbury marketing manager and a long-distance
runner. In 1995, Anne and her husband, Brad Dunlap, were living with her
parents in Minneapolis while they built their dream home in Medina,
Minn.

The couple had recently raised Anne Dunlap's life insurance policy to $1
million.

Anne Dunlap then suddenly disappeared on a Saturday afternoon and her
friends and family began a desperate search.

Two days later, on New Year's Day 1996, her body was found in her car in
the parking lot of the Lake Street Kmart. The keys were still in the
ignition.

Anne Dunlap was stabbed several times and police doubted a stranger
attacked her.

Brad Dunlap, who first reported his wife missing, became a suspect in
her murder.

Anne Dunlap's parents stood by their son-in-law then, and they still do
today. Louise and Donn Barber said recently they "know that he in no way
was involved in the murder."

To this day, the attention on Brad Dunlap by the media and police
remains intense.

"We are still looking at him as the only suspect," said Lt. Edwards.
"There's some information out there that an inner circle of friends and
associates or family members knows, and we need that information to come
forward."

While Minneapolis police continue to focus on Brad Dunlap for his wife's
murder, he moved to Arizona, where he has remarried and is now building
a new life.

"It's been a long time but it seems like yesterday, and I just wish the
media coverage would go away," Brad Dunlap told WCCO-TV's Caroline Lowe.

"But without media coverage the case may never be solved, and someone is
getting away with murder," Lowe replied.

"I don't have any comment on the media's plans on solving crimes,"
Dunlap said.

"I am shaking because this is bringing back a terrible time in my life,"
he added. "I really shouldn't say any more other than I have been the
victim."

Brad Dunlap is building a home in a new development in Arizona. Six
years ago, he collected an undisclosed amount on Anne Dunlap's life
insurance policy.

"You are still the only person they are looking at in connection with
Anne's murder," Lowe told Dunlap. "Do you have something to say about
that?"

"It has been nine years, and there really isn't a day that goes by that
I don't think of Anne, and I am very blessed to have Anne's family as
part of my family," Dunlap replied. "Her parents are like my own
parents, her brothers are like my own brothers and I am just grateful I
still have them in my life."

Brad Dunlap said police have not investigated enough other leads.

Lt. Edwards said he is confident time will reveal the truth in this
case, as it has in many other cold cases.

"Who is to say this killer won't kill again?" asked Lt. Edwards. "The
deceased is crying out for justice, and we are the advocates for the
deceased in the homicide unit. We will always stand up for them. That's
why it is so important."

No one has ever been charged in Anne Dunlap's death. While police still
consider Brad Dunlap a suspect, they won't elaborate on specifics.

A key factor is the $1 million insurance policy.

Police also believe that Anne Dunlap was murdered in her parents' home.
Forensics tests narrowed the time of her death to within about an hour
after she was seen coming home.

Police are hopeful that people close to the Dunlaps will come forward
and not fear legal consequences.

Anne Dunlap's family plans to visit Brad Dunlap in Arizona next month.
They said they are very proud of the scholarship they've set up in her
name at the University of Minnesota.

(WCCO)



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sheesh, sorry for the attachments

Post by AnnE

Post by Brian Link
I used to work with a fellow named Paul Barbour at Norwest. While I
was there, his sister was murdered just before Christmas, and was
found in the trunk of her car in the Target parking lot off of Lake
street.
There were no witnesses and no suspects. His sister's name was Ann.
He used to have a page with updates on the investigation, and I can't
seem to locate it.
I had an acquaintance suffer a similar loss, and was reminded of the
story. As far as I know it's still unsolved.
Thanks if anyone recognizes this incident and can fill me in.
BLink
--------------------------
"The worst thing about censorship is [redacted]"

Feb 7, 2005 9:00 pm US/Central [I just '"googled" Brad Dunlap and up
came this article]
The Murder Of Anne Dunlap
VIDEO: Caroline Lowe reports.
Read Caroline's Thoughts On The Dunlap Case.
(WCCO) Minneapolis The murder of Anne Barber Dunlap is one of
Minnesota's most infamous unsolved crimes.
The homicide unit of the Minneapolis police department is going back and
looking at all of its cold cases since the 1950s, as new technology and
fresh information can bring breakthroughs. The unit has more than 800
unsolved cases, and many are unforgettable.
One involves 31-year-old Anne Barber Dunlap, who was found murdered in
1996.
"These cases strike to us personally, on a human level, we never forget
these people," said Lt. Lee Edwards, who runs the homicide department
for the Minneapolis police.
Dunlap was a successful Pillsbury marketing manager and a
long-distance
runner. In 1995, Anne and her husband, Brad Dunlap, were living with her
parents in Minneapolis while they built their dream home in Medina,
Minn.
The couple had recently raised Anne Dunlap's life insurance policy to $1
million.
Anne Dunlap then suddenly disappeared on a Saturday afternoon and her
friends and family began a desperate search.
Two days later, on New Year's Day 1996, her body was found in her car in
the parking lot of the Lake Street Kmart. The keys were still in the
ignition.
Anne Dunlap was stabbed several times and police doubted a stranger
attacked her.
Brad Dunlap, who first reported his wife missing, became a suspect in
her murder.
Anne Dunlap's parents stood by their son-in-law then, and they still do
today. Louise and Donn Barber said recently they "know that he in no way
was involved in the murder."
To this day, the attention on Brad Dunlap by the media and police
remains intense.
"We are still looking at him as the only suspect," said Lt. Edwards.
"There's some information out there that an inner circle of friends and
associates or family members knows, and we need that information to come
forward."
While Minneapolis police continue to focus on Brad Dunlap for his wife's
murder, he moved to Arizona, where he has remarried and is now
building
a new life.
"It's been a long time but it seems like yesterday, and I just wish the
media coverage would go away," Brad Dunlap told WCCO-TV's Caroline Lowe.
"But without media coverage the case may never be solved, and someone is
getting away with murder," Lowe replied.
"I don't have any comment on the media's plans on solving crimes,"
Dunlap said.
"I am shaking because this is bringing back a terrible time in my life,"
he added. "I really shouldn't say any more other than I have been the
victim."
Brad Dunlap is building a home in a new development in Arizona. Six
years ago, he collected an undisclosed amount on Anne Dunlap's life
insurance policy.
"You are still the only person they are looking at in connection with
Anne's murder," Lowe told Dunlap. "Do you have something to say about
that?"
"It has been nine years, and there really isn't a day that goes by that
I don't think of Anne, and I am very blessed to have Anne's family as
part of my family," Dunlap replied. "Her parents are like my own
parents, her brothers are like my own brothers and I am just grateful I
still have them in my life."
Brad Dunlap said police have not investigated enough other leads.
Lt. Edwards said he is confident time will reveal the truth in this
case, as it has in many other cold cases.
"Who is to say this killer won't kill again?" asked Lt. Edwards. "The
deceased is crying out for justice, and we are the advocates for the
deceased in the homicide unit. We will always stand up for them. That's
why it is so important."
No one has ever been charged in Anne Dunlap's death. While police still
consider Brad Dunlap a suspect, they won't elaborate on specifics.
A key factor is the $1 million insurance policy.
Police also believe that Anne Dunlap was murdered in her parents' home.
Forensics tests narrowed the time of her death to within about an hour
after she was seen coming home.
Police are hopeful that people close to the Dunlaps will come forward
and not fear legal consequences.
Anne Dunlap's family plans to visit Brad Dunlap in Arizona next month.
They said they are very proud of the scholarship they've set up in her
name at the University of Minnesota.
(WCCO)

[P T]

Source: WCCO

...police doubted a stranger attacked her.
Brad Dunlap, who first reported his
wife missing, became a suspect in her
murder.... To this day, the attention
on Brad Dunlap by the media and
police remains intense.
...While Minneapolis police continue to >focus on Brad Dunlap
...While police still consider Brad
Dunlap a suspect, they won't elaborate
on specifics.
A key factor is the $1 million
insurance policy.
Police also believe that Anne Dunlap
was murdered in her parents' home.

Brad, Brad, Brad. That's all we hear. That, and a lot of innuendo. You
know, the police and prosecutors are NEVER wrong. I know that, because
they've said so. You can find cases where convicted people were
exonerated and set free by a judge, yet the prosecutors and police will
still say, we got the right man. I don't trust police and prosecutors
the least bit in these matters. They only care about one thing: getting
a conviction. If they get the actual culprit, that makes it a little
tidier, but they really don't care.

Anne Dunlap's parents stood by
their son-in-law then, and they
still do today.

I put more weight in this.

The million dollar life insurance looks fishy, but weren't they were
building a big house? It's not that remarkable to take out a policy if
you're taking on an obligation. And if you are buying a policy, why not
go for a huge sum? Sometimes I've bought auto insurance with limits far
exceeding the legal requirement.

Just because the police couldn't find a suspect, doesn't mean the usual
suspects did it.

Now I suppose we need to discuss Jon B. Ramsey...

[Howard Beale]

Post by P T
Brad, Brad, Brad. That's all we hear. That, and a lot of innuendo. You
know, the police and prosecutors are NEVER wrong. I know that, because
they've said so. You can find cases where convicted people were
exonerated and set free by a judge, yet the prosecutors and police will
still say, we got the right man. I don't trust police and prosecutors
the least bit in these matters. They only care about one thing: getting
a conviction. If they get the actual culprit, that makes it a little
tidier, but they really don't care.

I think most DAs and cops would rather convict the right person than just
get any conviction. That a handful don't from time to time is part of the
price you pay for having a criminal justice system.

Brad remained the focus of the investigation because it fit the statitsical
profile and the alternative, a stranger killing and abducting Anne at MoA,
is almost unheard of around here.

Post by P T

Post by AnnE
Anne Dunlap's parents stood by
their son-in-law then, and they
still do today.

I put more weight in this.

It is one of the more unusual aspects of this case, but it doesn't mean that
Brad hasn't either implicated or just simply conned them. You find your
daughter murdered, do you have the mental strength to turn on a son-in-law
you've loved and accepted, or do you put your faith in him?

Post by P T
The million dollar life insurance looks fishy, but weren't they were
building a big house? It's not that remarkable to take out a policy if
you're taking on an obligation. And if you are buying a policy, why not
go for a huge sum? Sometimes I've bought auto insurance with limits far
exceeding the legal requirement.

A big house by 1996 standards was what -- maybe $300k? Anne was pulling
maybe $65k at GMI and perhaps Brad the same, a nice income by even present
standards, but all they had for debt was the mortgage. No kids, no sick
relatives, nobody they had to care for. A $1M policy was overkill.

Post by P T
Just because the police couldn't find a suspect, doesn't mean the usual
suspects did it.

So let's hear an alternative theory. It's either Brad or a stranger, and
it's hard to define a motive for a stranger abducting and killing her and
leaving her body in her trunk, outside of a serial killer. IIRC, she wasn't
robbed and she wasn't raped, either, which eliminates many of the stranger
killing motives.

The only alternative theory I've ever been able to come up with is that SHE
was having an affair -- hence the marital counseling. The counseling
worked, she told her lover it was over and he plotted her murder.

Post by P T
Now I suppose we need to discuss Jon B. Ramsey...

So close to the death of Patsy??? :)

[AnnE]

Post by Howard Beale

Post by P T
Brad, Brad, Brad. That's all we hear. That, and a lot of innuendo.
You
know, the police and prosecutors are NEVER wrong. I know that, because
they've said so. You can find cases where convicted people were
exonerated and set free by a judge, yet the prosecutors and police will
still say, we got the right man. I don't trust police and
prosecutors
the least bit in these matters. They only care about one thing: getting
a conviction. If they get the actual culprit, that makes it a little
tidier, but they really don't care.

I think most DAs and cops would rather convict the right person than
just get any conviction. That a handful don't from time to time is
part of the price you pay for having a criminal justice system.
Brad remained the focus of the investigation because it fit the
statitsical profile and the alternative, a stranger killing and
abducting Anne at MoA, is almost unheard of around here.

Post by P T

Post by AnnE
Anne Dunlap's parents stood by
their son-in-law then, and they
still do today.

I put more weight in this.

It is one of the more unusual aspects of this case, but it doesn't
mean that Brad hasn't either implicated or just simply conned them.
You find your daughter murdered, do you have the mental strength to
turn on a son-in-law you've loved and accepted, or do you put your
faith in him?

Post by P T
The million dollar life insurance looks fishy, but weren't they were
building a big house? It's not that remarkable to take out a policy if
you're taking on an obligation. And if you are buying a policy, why not
go for a huge sum? Sometimes I've bought auto insurance with limits far
exceeding the legal requirement.

A big house by 1996 standards was what -- maybe $300k? Anne was
pulling maybe $65k at GMI and perhaps Brad the same, a nice income by
even present standards, but all they had for debt was the mortgage.
No kids, no sick relatives, nobody they had to care for. A $1M policy
was overkill.

Post by P T
Just because the police couldn't find a suspect, doesn't mean the usual
suspects did it.

So let's hear an alternative theory. It's either Brad or a stranger,
and it's hard to define a motive for a stranger abducting and killing
her and leaving her body in her trunk, outside of a serial killer.
IIRC, she wasn't robbed and she wasn't raped, either, which eliminates
many of the stranger killing motives.
The only alternative theory I've ever been able to come up with is
that SHE was having an affair -- hence the marital counseling. The
counseling worked, she told her lover it was over and he plotted her
murder.

Post by P T
Now I suppose we need to discuss Jon B. Ramsey...

So close to the death of Patsy??? :)

All I remember about the case was that my girl cousin who was in
Antarctica at the time wanted me to send her articles re: this cuz she
knew Brad. Said that he couldn't possibly have done it.

She's back now so maybe I'll forward some of these posts to her.

AnnE in MN

[Wayne Marsh]

Post by AnnE
Said that he couldn't possibly have done it.

Maybe, maybe not. But it's a good idea in general never to put anybody in a
position where they will become rich if you, in some way, become dead.

Wayne Marsh Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
***@mac.com

[D. A. Tsenuf]

Post by Wayne Marsh

Post by AnnE
Said that he couldn't possibly have done it.

Maybe, maybe not. But it's a good idea in general never to put anybody in a
position where they will become rich if you, in some way, become dead.

Isn't that the case of most married couples who have life insurance and
their spouse is listed as beneficiary ?

[AnnE]

Post by D. A. Tsenuf

Post by Wayne Marsh

Post by AnnE
Said that he couldn't possibly have done it.

Maybe, maybe not. But it's a good idea in general never to put anybody in a
position where they will become rich if you, in some way, become dead.

Isn't that the case of most married couples who have life insurance
and their spouse is listed as beneficiary ?

Agree with that statement. Ummmmmmmmm, better re-check ours. lol

I wonder whatever happened to that house they were building?

I would think that if Anne's parents still consider Brad as a "friend",
it would mean something good. Can't believe the police can't find more
info on this very old case. And if my mind serves me right (heck, I
just bought "Brain Age" to help me along), the blood found in the garage
wasn't much to go on.

AnnE

[Howard Beale]

I would think that if Anne's parents still consider Brad as a "friend", it
would mean something good. Can't believe the police can't find more info
on this very old case. And if my mind serves me right (heck, I just
bought "Brain Age" to help me along), the blood found in the garage wasn't
much to go on.

IMHO, they'd have to find enough blood to demonstrate someone was killed as
well as enough to test ensure it was hers, it was recent, etc.

I'm sure there's a trivial trace of blood in everyone's garage -- it's not
hard to cut yourself on yard tools or whatever.

[S. Smith]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:27:44 -0500, "Howard Beale"

Post by Howard Beale

I would think that if Anne's parents still consider Brad as a "friend", it
would mean something good. Can't believe the police can't find more info
on this very old case. And if my mind serves me right (heck, I just
bought "Brain Age" to help me along), the blood found in the garage wasn't
much to go on.

IMHO, they'd have to find enough blood to demonstrate someone was killed as
well as enough to test ensure it was hers, it was recent, etc.
I'm sure there's a trivial trace of blood in everyone's garage -- it's not
hard to cut yourself on yard tools or whatever.

Yep, I just bled all over my garage a few weeks ago when I
was replacing a headlight unit in my car and sliced my hand
pulling the old one out.



- Scott Smith: ***@sludgereport.org
Books Blog: http://scottsbooks.blogspot.com
Blue States Rising: http://www.bluestaterising.blogspot.com

[Howard Beale]

Post by S. Smith
Yep, I just bled all over my garage a few weeks ago when I
was replacing a headlight unit in my car and sliced my hand
pulling the old one out.

Memo to Ms. Smith:

Now's the time. You have plausable deniability....

[S. Smith]

On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:09:12 -0500, "Howard Beale"

Post by Howard Beale

Post by S. Smith
Yep, I just bled all over my garage a few weeks ago when I
was replacing a headlight unit in my car and sliced my hand
pulling the old one out.

Now's the time. You have plausable deniability....

Hmmm...she has been talking about getting better life insurance
coverage lately. ;-)




- Scott Smith: ***@sludgereport.org
Books Blog: http://scottsbooks.blogspot.com
Blue States Rising: http://www.bluestaterising.blogspot.com

[tdstr]

Post by S. Smith
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:09:12 -0500, "Howard Beale"

Post by Howard Beale

Post by S. Smith
Yep, I just bled all over my garage a few weeks ago when I
was replacing a headlight unit in my car and sliced my hand
pulling the old one out.

Now's the time. You have plausable deniability....

Hmmm...she has been talking about getting better life insurance
coverage lately. ;-)

'Here hon...special wonton soup for you'

:)

Ted Novak
TRA#5512
IEAS#75

[Wayne Marsh]

Post by D. A. Tsenuf

Post by Wayne Marsh
Maybe, maybe not. But it's a good idea in general never to put anybody in
a position where they will become rich if you, in some way, become dead.

Isn't that the case of most married couples who have life insurance and
their spouse is listed as beneficiary ?

Yes, it is. And who is almost always Suspect #1 when a married person is
murdered? I rest my case.

Wayne Marsh Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
***@mac.com

[r***@gmail.com]

Oj

[WDS]

Post by Howard Beale
Anne was pulling
maybe $65k at GMI and perhaps Brad the same, a nice income by even present
standards, but all they had for debt was the mortgage. No kids, no sick
relatives, nobody they had to care for. A $1M policy was overkill.

Not really.

A lot of insurance folks will tell you that you need some big multiple
of your income, some as high as 20x. 20x$65,000 == 1.3 million. I
used the calculator on the State Farm web site and they said to replace
a $65,000 income I needed $650,000 in insurance (obviously they are
using 10x).

So maybe they just got taken in by an aggressive sales pitch.

[Howard Beale]

Post by WDS
A lot of insurance folks will tell you that you need some big multiple
of your income, some as high as 20x. 20x$65,000 == 1.3 million. I
used the calculator on the State Farm web site and they said to replace
a $65,000 income I needed $650,000 in insurance (obviously they are
using 10x).
So maybe they just got taken in by an aggressive sales pitch.

IIRC, Brad had an insurance license and wrote the policies himself, but
wasn't an insurance agent by trade, or something along those lines.

It wasn't just the outcome of a strong door-door sales pitch or a
pessimistic outlook.

[WDS]

Post by Howard Beale

Post by WDS
A lot of insurance folks will tell you that you need some big multiple
of your income, some as high as 20x. 20x$65,000 == 1.3 million. I
used the calculator on the State Farm web site and they said to replace
a $65,000 income I needed $650,000 in insurance (obviously they are
using 10x).
So maybe they just got taken in by an aggressive sales pitch.

IIRC, Brad had an insurance license and wrote the policies himself, but
wasn't an insurance agent by trade, or something along those lines.
It wasn't just the outcome of a strong door-door sales pitch or a
pessimistic outlook.

Maybe he believed his own spiele? A policy like that might make you
woder a bit, just a bit, but it's not like those women who were offing
homeless guys after taking out big policies on them....

[john doe]

'95 was a bizzare year for homocides in the Cities. I remember it started
with 2-3 on Jan 1, and averaged a couple a week for the rest of the year.
Minneapolis alone had around 95-98, IIRC, and St. Paul tossed in around
20-25, also IIRC.

Post by AnnE

Post by Brian Link
I used to work with a fellow named Paul Barbour at Norwest. While I
was there, his sister was murdered just before Christmas, and was
found in the trunk of her car in the Target parking lot off of Lake
street.
There were no witnesses and no suspects. His sister's name was Ann.
He used to have a page with updates on the investigation, and I can't
seem to locate it.
I had an acquaintance suffer a similar loss, and was reminded of the
story. As far as I know it's still unsolved.
Thanks if anyone recognizes this incident and can fill me in.
BLink
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"The worst thing about censorship is [redacted]"

Feb 7, 2005 9:00 pm US/Central [I just '"googled" Brad Dunlap and up
came this article]
The Murder Of Anne Dunlap
VIDEO: Caroline Lowe reports.
Read Caroline's Thoughts On The Dunlap Case.
(WCCO) Minneapolis The murder of Anne Barber Dunlap is one of
Minnesota's most infamous unsolved crimes.
The homicide unit of the Minneapolis police department is going back and
looking at all of its cold cases since the 1950s, as new technology and
fresh information can bring breakthroughs. The unit has more than 800
unsolved cases, and many are unforgettable.
One involves 31-year-old Anne Barber Dunlap, who was found murdered in
1996.
"These cases strike to us personally, on a human level, we never forget
these people," said Lt. Lee Edwards, who runs the homicide department
for the Minneapolis police.
Dunlap was a successful Pillsbury marketing manager and a long-distance
runner. In 1995, Anne and her husband, Brad Dunlap, were living with her
parents in Minneapolis while they built their dream home in Medina,
Minn.
The couple had recently raised Anne Dunlap's life insurance policy to $1
million.
Anne Dunlap then suddenly disappeared on a Saturday afternoon and her
friends and family began a desperate search.
Two days later, on New Year's Day 1996, her body was found in her car in
the parking lot of the Lake Street Kmart. The keys were still in the
ignition.
Anne Dunlap was stabbed several times and police doubted a stranger
attacked her.
Brad Dunlap, who first reported his wife missing, became a suspect in
her murder.
Anne Dunlap's parents stood by their son-in-law then, and they still do
today. Louise and Donn Barber said recently they "know that he in no way
was involved in the murder."
To this day, the attention on Brad Dunlap by the media and police
remains intense.
"We are still looking at him as the only suspect," said Lt. Edwards.
"There's some information out there that an inner circle of friends and
associates or family members knows, and we need that information to come
forward."
While Minneapolis police continue to focus on Brad Dunlap for his wife's
murder, he moved to Arizona, where he has remarried and is now building
a new life.
"It's been a long time but it seems like yesterday, and I just wish the
media coverage would go away," Brad Dunlap told WCCO-TV's Caroline Lowe.
"But without media coverage the case may never be solved, and someone is
getting away with murder," Lowe replied.
"I don't have any comment on the media's plans on solving crimes,"
Dunlap said.
"I am shaking because this is bringing back a terrible time in my life,"
he added. "I really shouldn't say any more other than I have been the
victim."
Brad Dunlap is building a home in a new development in Arizona. Six
years ago, he collected an undisclosed amount on Anne Dunlap's life
insurance policy.
"You are still the only person they are looking at in connection with
Anne's murder," Lowe told Dunlap. "Do you have something to say about
that?"
"It has been nine years, and there really isn't a day that goes by that
I don't think of Anne, and I am very blessed to have Anne's family as
part of my family," Dunlap replied. "Her parents are like my own
parents, her brothers are like my own brothers and I am just grateful I
still have them in my life."
Brad Dunlap said police have not investigated enough other leads.
Lt. Edwards said he is confident time will reveal the truth in this
case, as it has in many other cold cases.
"Who is to say this killer won't kill again?" asked Lt. Edwards. "The
deceased is crying out for justice, and we are the advocates for the
deceased in the homicide unit. We will always stand up for them. That's
why it is so important."
No one has ever been charged in Anne Dunlap's death. While police still
consider Brad Dunlap a suspect, they won't elaborate on specifics.
A key factor is the $1 million insurance policy.
Police also believe that Anne Dunlap was murdered in her parents' home.
Forensics tests narrowed the time of her death to within about an hour
after she was seen coming home.
Police are hopeful that people close to the Dunlaps will come forward
and not fear legal consequences.
Anne Dunlap's family plans to visit Brad Dunlap in Arizona next month.
They said they are very proud of the scholarship they've set up in her
name at the University of Minnesota.
(WCCO)
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Could have happened in K-mart